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NonstickZ Tuesday 25th April at 8:32pm

Hi trying to get more serious about form. Is there a linear sort of curve handicappers are following?

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claka19558782 Thursday 11th May at 7:44pm

Originally posted by NonstickZ

Hi trying to get more serious about form. Is there a linear sort of curve handicappers are following?
1000m 1.52 kgs to the length
1100m 1.42 kgs "
1200m 1.25 kgs
1300m 1.18 kgs
1400m 1.06 kgs
1450m 1.03 kgs
1500m 1.00 kgs
1600m 0.91 kgs
2000m 0.72 kgs
2200m 0.64 kgs
2400m 0.58 kgs
2500m 0.56 kgs
2600m 0.54 kgs
2800m 0.50 kgs
3200m 0.43 kgs

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Bigpinter Thursday 11th May at 9:39pm

How do you apply those numbers in practice? For instance a horse goes from 1600m to 2000m which number do you use?

Looks like a lot of work

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claka19558782 Friday 12th May at 4:46am

If for instance your horse has won at 1600m by 1.5L carrying 55.0 kg.
The second horse has carried 59.0 then it would be 4 x 0.91 = 3.64 lengths.
So the margin then, at equal weights, is with the second horse by 2.14 lengths.

If you are doing times then it can be used as a guide.
0.16 of a second per length -- 2.14 x 0.16 = 0.34 of a second.

The above is just a weight scale that can be used when handicapping, there is so much more work that needs to be done to find a winner, a weight scale can be handy at times.

As you say there is a lot of work picking winners, but then again who wants to work day & night 40 - 50 hours a week to back losers and end up with a headache.

I like to go to Racing & Sports website each day and go to results where I check the RSSF figures for each race run the previous day to see which horses have run above average.
The RSSF figures are explained, and studying them can be an advantage along with other imformation.

Edited at 7:27am on Friday 12th May

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Bigpinter Friday 12th May at 6:30pm

Looks like a headache. I just use 1kgs equals 0.5 lengths all trips.

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Morgan Sunday 28th May at 10:40am

i don't pay too much attention to weight unless it is more than 2-3kg

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LG Adams Sunday 11th February at 7:05pm

I once read a fantastic article that represented a paradigm shift on this matter. Time per length, and weight is not relative to a track or any other constant that exists. Time per length is always relative to the time in which a horse ran any given race.

To illustrate - a horse is on the muscle, fit and sound - the time he takes to cover a length at any given distance will be relative to his physiology and ability - the same horse somewhat off peak, fatigued or just out of condition, will take longer to cover a length than when fit. It is well established that horses do not always run at peak. The exersize of a standard quantification for lengths at a given distance - might be a good guideline, but will not suffice for the minutia. Likewise a fit horse will be slowed down less by 1kg , than if he were unfit.

On the issue of weight - there is a point at which even if the horse ran with no additional weight, his performance could not be enhanced beyond his physical ability.

Add to that the issue of pace.

Edited at 7:17pm on Sunday 11th February

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