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Wise Men Say
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Trained by R M Connors at Wanganui, Wise Men Say is a 2024 year old gelding by the sire Yamanin Vital, out of the dam Vaguely Famous.

He has won a total of 14 races from 58 starts for a win percentage of 24%. His career earnings are $464k, with the biggest win of his career coming at Hastings on June 30th in 2018 when he won $0 in the Simon's 50th B'day H.B. Stpl (a handicap race over 4,800 metres).

Betting level stakes of $100 win on all of the horse's starts would have yielded a loss of $-1800.

The gelding tends to run better on soft ground, with an average prize money per start of $5k in those conditions.

Career Statistics

Overall
Prize Money
$464k
Starts
58
Wins
14
Second
8
Third
5
Win %
24
Place %
48
Profit
-18.0
Conditions
Good
1
0-0-0
$1k
Soft
15
3-1-1
$5k
Heavy
42
11-4-2
$4k
Race Standard
All
0
0-0-0
Group 1
0
0-0-0
Group 2
0
0-0-0
Group 3
0
0-0-0
Race Distance
6400m
2
1-0-0
-2
4900m
2
0-1-0
-2
4150m
2
1-0-1
-2
3800m
1
0-0-0
-1
4400m
1
0-0-0
-1
2800m
1
0-0-0
-1
3000m
2
1-0-0
-2
5500m
2
1-1-0
-2
4800m
1
0-1-0
-1
4200m
1
0-0-0
-1
4000m
3
1-0-1
-3
Race Track
Ellerslie
6
2-1-1
-6
Wanganui
3
1-0-0
-3
Awapuni
3
0-0-0
-3
Trentham
3
1-0-1
-3
Hastings
2
0-2-0
-2
Hawera
1
1-0-0
-1
Race State
18
5-3-2
-5

Race History

Oct-17 20
-9/9
0.0
0
Ellerslie
5
6400
Arc Great Northern Stpl
$0k
$116k
Isaac Lupton
70
0.00
-
Oct-4 20
10/14
46.2
0
Ellerslie
4
4900
Pakuranga Hunt Cup Stpl
$0k
$45k
Isaac Lupton
71
395.51
-
11
13,13,12
+2
Sep-12 20
3/11
18.0
0
Ellerslie
10
4150
Barfoot & Thompson R-Opn Stpl
$0k
$18k
Isaac Lupton
73
318.44
-
2
5,5,6
+3
Sep-5 20
10/12
28.0
0
Wanganui
10
3800
Wanganui Chronicle Stpl
$0k
$18k
Isaac Lupton
74
311.32
-
10
12,12,12
+2
Aug-22 20
4/9
6.8
0
Awapuni
11
4400
Lj Hooker Manawatu Stpl
$0k
$45k
Isaac Lupton
71
349.81
-
6
7,6,6
+2
Jul-31 20
5/8
12.4
0
Awapuni
11
2800
Jennian Homes R-Opn Hrdl
$0k
$13k
Isaac Lupton
66
220.81
-
7
2,2,2
-3
Jul-10 20
5/11
18.3
0
Wanganui
11
3000
Chase A Fox Racing R-Opn Hrdl
$0k
$14k
Isaac Lupton
67½
254.19
-
8
9,9,9
+4
Jul-14 18
1/9
0.0
0
Trentham
11
5500
Grant Plumbing Wellington Stpl
$0k
$70k
Isaac Lupton
70
451.96
-
5
1,1,1
Jun-30 18
2/12
0.4
0
Hastings
10
4800
Simon's 50th B'day H.B. Stpl
$0k
$47k
Isaac Lupton
70
383.76
-
6
3,4,2
Jun-16 18
4/8
8.2
0
Awapuni
11
4200
L J Hooker Manawatu Stpl
$0k
$47k
Isaac Lupton
70
335.19
-
6
7,4,5
+1
Jun-9 18
10/12
57.0
0
Trentham
11
4000
Irvines McGregor Grant Stpl
$0k
$47k
Isaac Lupton
70
353.50
-
3
10,9,9
-1
May-6 18
1/12
0.0
0
Wanganui
9
3000
Lowe Schollum Jones Maiden Hrdl
$0k
$9k
Isaac Lupton
68
219.13
-
3
4,4,4
+3
Sep-9 17
1/
0.0
0
Ellerslie
11
6400
Irvines Great Northern Stpl
$0k
$116k
Isaac Lupton
68
571.50
-
7
1,1,3
+2
Aug-26 17
2/
1.5
0
Ellerslie
11
4900
Tractor Centre Pakuranga Hunt
$0k
$47k
Isaac Lupton
68½
387.30
-
6
3,3,5
+3
Jul-20 17
2/
2.5
0
Hastings
10
5500
Grant Plumbing Wellington Stpl
$0k
$70k
Isaac Lupton
68½
488.63
-
7
4,4,4
+2
Jun-17 17
3/
4.3
0
Trentham
11
4000
Lj Hooker Manawatu Stpl
$0k
$47k
Isaac Lupton
69
299.80
-
5
4,5,6
+3
Jun-5 17
1/
0.0
0
Ellerslie
10
4150
McGregor Grant Stpl
$0k
$47k
Isaac Lupton
66½
317.43
-
6
5,2,3
+2
May-28 17
1/
0.0
0
Hawera
10
4000
Hypnotize R-Opn Stpl
$0k
$19k
Isaac Lupton
68
307.92
-
6
2,3,3
+2